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	<title>Socrates &#38; King &#187; same-sex marriage</title>
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		<title>Gay marriage course at Seton Hall</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 05:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This semester I am incorporating an examination of California&#8217;s Prof. 8, the state proposition that bans same-sex marriage. We won&#8217;t get to it until about half way through the semester, but a course is being taught on the topic of same-sex marriage at Seton Hall, a Catholic university in New Jersey. It appears Seton Hall [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This semester I am incorporating an examination of California&#8217;s Prof. 8, the state proposition that bans same-sex marriage. We won&#8217;t get to it until about half way through the semester, but a course is being taught on the topic of <a href="http://bit.ly/asTp8T" target="_blank">same-sex marriage at Seton Hall</a>, a Catholic university in New Jersey.</p>
<blockquote><p>It appears Seton Hall University will offer a controversial course on  gay marriage over the objections of Newark Archbishop John J. Myers,  according to the professor scheduled to teach the class.The undergraduate seminar course — called &#8220;The Politics of Gay  Marriage&#8221; — is to begin Tuesday with about two dozen students, said W.  King Mott, an associate professor of political science.</p>
<p>&#8220;The class is happening. I&#8217;ve never heard that it wasn&#8217;t,&#8221; said Mott, who has sent the syllabus to the enrolled students.</p></blockquote>
<p>The course is being taught by an openly gay man, already demoted from an high level administrative post of Associate Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences. He was demoted after writing a letter challenging the church&#8217;s position on homosexuality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing to ask him for a copy of the syllabus. Perhaps it&#8217;ll give us further material for discussing the issue with respect to the texts of King.</p>
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		<title>California constitution, excerpt</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve read the US Constitution, but must admit I haven&#8217;t read the California constitution. A quick Google search yielded the following. I excerpted some of the Articles that deal with &#8220;equal rights&#8221;. CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION ARTICLE 1  DECLARATION OF RIGHTS SEC. 4.  Free exercise and enjoyment of religion without discrimination or preference are guaranteed.  This liberty [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read the US Constitution, but must admit I haven&#8217;t read the California constitution. A quick Google search yielded the <a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_1" target="_blank">following</a>. I excerpted some of the Articles that deal with &#8220;equal rights&#8221;.</p>
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<blockquote><p>CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION<br />
ARTICLE 1  DECLARATION OF RIGHTS</p>
<p>SEC. 4.  Free exercise and enjoyment of religion without<br />
discrimination or preference are guaranteed.  This liberty of<br />
conscience does not excuse acts that are licentious or inconsistent<br />
with the peace or safety of the State.  The Legislature shall make no<br />
law respecting an establishment of religion.<br />
A person is not incompetent to be a witness or juror because of<br />
his or her opinions on religious beliefs.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, here&#8217;s religion. No discrimination on that basis. But what if a person&#8217;s &#8220;free exercise&#8221; of religion means that she does (or does not) support certain acts. For example, what if your religious views lead you to not hire a Mormon or a Jehovah&#8217;s Witness? Or a Mormon employer who does not want to hire someone who is gay? Does it go against the <em>peace and safety</em> of the State? I suppose if the discrimination leads to riots, it would. This was one of the criticisms King faced. &#8220;Slow down. You&#8217;re rocking the boat. You&#8217;ll make the people in power angry. If you don&#8217;t move faster, there will be riots in the streets.&#8221; And on and on.</p>
<blockquote><p>CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION<br />
ARTICLE 1  DECLARATION OF RIGHTS</p>
<p>SEC. 6.  Slavery is prohibited.  Involuntary servitude is prohibited<br />
except to punish crime.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a nice addition. The next bit is crucial.</p>
<blockquote><p>CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION<br />
ARTICLE 1  DECLARATION OF RIGHTS</p>
<p>SEC. 7.  (a) A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or<br />
property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the<br />
laws;</p></blockquote>
<p>As I understand it, the central issue being argued before the Federal Appeal&#8217;s court starting today (Jan 11, 2009), is the very point of <em>equal protection.</em> One class of people cannot be treated differently. That would seem to be the common sense view. However, the legal interpretation of this is a bit different. I&#8217;m not a legal scholar. Things a more complicated than that.</p>
<blockquote><p>(b) A citizen or class of citizens may not be granted privileges<br />
or immunities not granted on the same terms to all citizens.<br />
Privileges or immunities granted by the Legislature may be altered or<br />
revoked.</p></blockquote>
<p>This ought to be a hard bit to argue against with respect to same-sex marriage. If marriage is a <em>privilege</em> and a class of persons tells another group that they can&#8217;t have the same privilege. We discussed the knee-jerk reaction that <em>everyone</em> is &#8220;equal&#8221;. Is it discriminating against people who are under 4ft 8in when it comes to getting on a ride at Disneyland? Is it discriminatory to have separate privileges for 9th graders that are different from 2nd graders?</p>
<p>And, drumroll&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION<br />
ARTICLE 1  DECLARATION OF RIGHTS</p>
<p>SEC. 7.5.  Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or<br />
recognized in California.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this  is the bit that Prop. 8 reaffirmed. Or it might be that it is what Prop. 8 mandated. Bottom line: Article 1, Sec. 7.5  is the law in California.</p>
<blockquote><p>CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION<br />
ARTICLE 1  DECLARATION OF RIGHTS</p>
<p>SEC. 8.  A person may not be disqualified from entering or pursuing<br />
a business, profession, vocation, or employment because of sex, race,<br />
creed, color, or national or ethnic origin.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting that there&#8217;s no &#8220;religion&#8221; here. &#8220;Creed&#8221; might be a substitute for &#8220;religion&#8221;. There&#8217;s also nothing here about &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221;.</p>
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